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| 1 | General / The Political Arena / Re: What the IRS shennanigans reveal... on: Today at 4:11pm |
| Started by Devilsmacker | Post by HI-TEC-REDNECK | |
| Quote: And do you know who the role model for every president should be? Jimmy Carter, Really? Gas lines, Iran Hostages he could /would not free a wuss of a president. Up untill Obama would have been known as the worse president ever. Butt I will from here out try and refrain from letting your assine ignorance raise my blood pressure and hope the people who think like you get exactly what they deserve for voting this president that deals with the muslim brotherhood apologizes to muslims and the rest of the world for America and pissses on our constitution. |
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| 2 | General / The Political Arena / Memorial Day speech by the greatest president ever on: Today at 4:05pm |
| Started by HI-TEC-REDNECK | Post by HI-TEC-REDNECK | |
| Today is the day we put aside to remember fallen heroes and to pray that no heroes will ever have to die for us again. It’s a day of thanks for the valor of others, a day to remember the splendor of America and those of her children who rest in this cemetery and others. It’s a day to be with the family and remember. I was thinking this morning that across the country children and their parents will be going to the town parade and the young ones will sit on the sidewalks and wave their flags as the band goes by. Later, maybe, they’ll have a cookout or a day at the beach. And that’s good, because today is a day to be with the family and to remember. Arlington, this place of so many memories, is a fitting place for some remembering. So many wonderful men and women rest here, men and women who led colorful, vivid, and passionate lives. There are the greats of the military: Bull Halsey and the Admirals Leahy, father and son; Black Jack Pershing; and the GI’s general, Omar Bradley. Great men all, military men. But there are others here known for other things. Here in Arlington rests a sharecropper’s son who became a hero to a lonely people. Joe Louis came from nowhere, but he knew how to fight. And he galvanized a nation in the days after Pearl Harbor when he put on the uniform of his country and said, “I know we’ll win because we’re on God’s side.” Audie Murphy is here, Audie Murphy of the wild, wild courage. For what else would you call it when a man bounds to the top of a disabled tank, stops an enemy advance, saves lives, and rallies his men, and all of it single-handedly. When he radioed for artillery support and was asked how close the enemy was to his position, he said, “Wait a minute and I’ll let you speak to them.” [Laughter] Michael Smith is here, and Dick Scobee, both of the space shuttle Challenger. Their courage wasn’t wild, but thoughtful, the mature and measured courage of career professionals who took prudent risks for great reward—in their case, to advance the sum total of knowledge in the world. They’re only the latest to rest here; they join other great explorers with names like Grissom and Chaffee. Oliver Wendell Holmes is here, the great jurist and fighter for the right. A poet searching for an image of true majesty could not rest until he seized on “Holmes dissenting in a sordid age.” Young Holmes served in the Civil War. He might have been thinking of the crosses and stars of Arlington when he wrote: “At the grave of a hero we end, not with sorrow at the inevitable loss, but with the contagion of his courage; and with a kind of desperate joy we go back to the fight.” All of these men were different, but they shared this in common: They loved America very much. There was nothing they wouldn’t do for her. And they loved with the sureness of the young. It’s hard not to think of the young in a place like this, for it’s the young who do the fighting and dying when a peace fails and a war begins. Not far from here is the statue of the three servicemen—the three fighting boys of Vietnam. It, too, has majesty and more. Perhaps you’ve seen it—three rough boys walking together, looking ahead with a steady gaze. There’s something wounded about them, a kind of resigned toughness. But there’s an unexpected tenderness, too. At first you don’t really notice, but then you see it. The three are touching each other, as if they’re supporting each other, helping each other on. I know that many veterans of Vietnam will gather today, some of them perhaps by the wall. And they’re still helping each other on. They were quite a group, the boys of Vietnam—boys who fought a terrible and vicious war without enough support from home, boys who were dodging bullets while we debated the efficacy of the battle. It was often our poor who fought in that war; it was the unpampered boys of the working class who picked up the rifles and went on the march. They learned not to rely on us; they learned to rely on each other. And they were special in another way: They chose to be faithful. They chose to reject the fashionable skepticism of their time. They chose to believe and answer the call of duty. They had the wild, wild courage of youth. They seized certainty from the heart of an ambivalent age; they stood for something. And we owe them something, those boys. We owe them first a promise: That just as they did not forget their missing comrades, neither, ever, will we. And there are other promises. We must always remember that peace is a fragile thing that needs constant vigilance. We owe them a promise to look at the world with a steady gaze and, perhaps, a resigned toughness, knowing that we have adversaries in the world and challenges and the only way to meet them and maintain the peace is by staying strong. That, of course, is the lesson of this century, a lesson learned in the Sudetenland, in Poland, in Hungary, in Czechoslovakia, in Cambodia. If we really care about peace, we must stay strong. If we really care about peace, we must, through our strength, demonstrate our unwillingness to accept an ending of the peace. We must be strong enough to create peace where it does not exist and strong enough to protect it where it does. That’s the lesson of this century and, I think, of this day. And that’s all I wanted to say. The rest of my contribution is to leave this great place to its peace, a peace it has earned. Thank all of you, and God bless you, and have a day full of memories Ronald Reagan |
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| 3 | General / The Political Arena / Re: What the IRS shennanigans reveal... on: Yesterday at 8:53pm |
| Started by Devilsmacker | Post by buttwheat | |
| You'll have to excuse, HT, Dwhack. He's so full of disdain, delirium and dogsh!t that he can't quite see straight "The more sophisticated of us surely realize that we (the US establishment ) are on the side of the wealthy and secure, while we create a hell for the poor." Ahhh, yes. I thank you for that link, Dwahck. MLK was, of course addressing Vietnam, and we all agree that war was some horseshit. And i swear, i was going to post that recent Maher link here for you, but you beat me to it: "America needs to start defining PEACE as strength. And do you know who the role model for every president should be? Jimmy Carter, who sat in office for 4 years and never fired a shot". And fyi, i would vote for Nador. You see, Dwhack, there is room for agreement between us (i'll ignore that last, ridiculous link-Obama make GW seem like a pacifist-fricking hilarious!). But you gotta stop being just a one trick, Ron Pauly, please. |
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| 4 | General / The Political Arena / Re: What the IRS shennanigans reveal... on: Yesterday at 6:12pm |
| Started by Devilsmacker | Post by HI-TEC-REDNECK | |
| HE IS AS EVIL AS SATAN HIMSELF | |
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| 5 | General / The Political Arena / Re: What the IRS shennanigans reveal... on: Yesterday at 8:53am |
| Started by Devilsmacker | Post by Devilsmacker | |
| HT I am no fan of Obama. As a president I sympathize with what he inherited but that doesn't give him a free pass for his subsequent actions since 2008. His legacy is far from a failure and it certainly is not a success. Time will tell. However, I do not feel he is evil. We don't do ourselves any good from conservative or libertarian principles by casting our political struggle in terms of good and evil. We need to focus on policy. I happen to believe the bulk of Obama's policy is the wrong course for America. Most of all, I feel he views the Constitution as an annoyance and a hindrance to the expansion of executive power. Unfortunately, the trail set by several presidents going backwards has eroded the respect for law and order. Obama is merely continuing the trend. His apologetic stance on all issues "Muslim" is probably not a good idea to our security, I agree. Radical Muslim ideology probably doesn't give a darn if Obama is apologizing or threatening a nuclear strike. That is the problem with trying to deal with a portion of the Islamic culture who do not see reason in the way that we do. They also have not appreciated our repeated meddlings in their countries...be it arms deals, regime change, fanning the flames of insurrections, or our one sided alliances with Israel. For those who suspect that Bushes actions after 9/11 were warranted and have kept us safe...I do not disagree. But we now must accept that a policy of massive intervention and meddling and secrecy and drone strikes is going to have to be necessary going forward...as terrorism only increases. Keep in mind HT, we funded the Taliban back in the 80s. Now we see our troops die from their IEDS and their snipers. We funneled weapons and resources into Libya to take out Qaddaffi. Those same "allies" were behind the deaths of 4 Americans in Bengazi. We prop up repressive and monstrous leaders around the world in the endless quest to stop the spread of communism, or to stop the spread of regimes not friendly to our interests. Those same regimes we "befriend" in a pact with the devil care little for freedom, democracy, or women's rights. Who is our greatest ally in the Middle East? Saudi Arabia. The same country that still televises public beheadings, stonings, and can execute a woman for being in the presence of another man. Enough said. As long as we recognize why this entire condition exists in the first place, then at least we understand the twisted history. Muslim rage against U.S. interests stems from our terrible actions overseas going all the way back to the end of WWII. We are still living as if the Cold War is a threat to our very existence. Who is the next boogeyman who will steal freedom from our shores? Without the Russians...what was America to do? We invented more enemies, sacrificed more American lives, and now must Police an endless invisible enemy who plots our destruction. Is Obama the best president to lead us through this mess? I doubt it sincerely. |
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| 6 | General / The Political Arena / Re: What the IRS shennanigans reveal... on: Yesterday at 7:09am |
| Started by Devilsmacker | Post by HI-TEC-REDNECK | |
| Obama is a Evil man who deserves any negative things that happen to him in life. He has no soul and will stop at nothing to destroy this country and make it his country. The constitution means nothing to him,and if anyone believes the orders during the at on on our embassy did not come from him is a fool, if you believe he did not know the IRS was attacking his enimies you are wrong and if you think fast and furious was not his fault you are a fool and if you think he gives a crap about American lives you are a Idiot. He apologizes to muslims attacks Christians and kills Americans and their way of life. | |
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| 7 | General / The Political Arena / Re: What the IRS shennanigans reveal... on: May 23rd, 2013, 8:49pm |
| Started by Devilsmacker | Post by Devilsmacker | |
| Give me a break. Obama is suddenly concerned about transparency and telling the "truth" about his clandestine drone policy because the Media has called his ass out with several articles detailing the abuses of power from the executive branch. His left-wing cover has gotten up enough gumption to go after him, finally, after five years of blinders. I give the media credit for finally letting the glean of the cult of Obama finally wear off long enough to actually report the news. This isn't Fox News we are talking about either. The New York Times, New Yorker Magazine, TheDailyBeast, MSNBC (I could go on) have all called out the current administrations secrecy, tactics, and horrible policy of striking targets overseas with no Congressional approval or oversight. Short of being an epic speech, it was groveling at best for some kind of sympathy, as the last 4 years of Obama are shaping up to be a do-nothing lame duck session with a President drowning in scandal (some of it merited, some of it not). Closing down the IRS will never happen, as this group is tied to the historical boondoogle that has enriched Uncle Sam to disproportionate bloatedness. The income tax is and will always be nothing more than a feed bag to expand the size of government beyond Constitutional feasibility and design. Most, if not all of the agencies created since 1913 have had limited, nil, or negative impacts on society at large with the double whammy of costing taxpayers billions of their dollars. Yes, Obama is taking some steps in the right direction on the war on Terror. But why is it 5 years later? Don't give me this garbage about trying to undo the damage from the previous 8 years. A man who won a nobel peace prize doesn't need 5 years to make up his fukking mind. And for Godsakes stop bowing at this man's altar whenever he gets in front of a podium. He frankly doesn't impress. But if you want true leadership, character, and moral integrity when it comes to the correct foreign policy our country should have followed time and time again post WWII, you might want to listen to this for something truly chilling and awe-inspiring. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k5dptjc3LY Perhaps the strongest Anti-War speech (taken from 2 separate speeches) ever given in the history of Humanity. Cornel West doesn't impress me in most cases but his take on our Nobel Peace Prize winning President should cause us to consider. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcTa--BOQAE Ralph Nader...looks like Ron Paul is not the only person calling out our foreign policy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCwOzwBr_B8 Here is your buddy Bill Maher...he dances around Obama but the inferred message is it doesn't matter who is in office. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3zxBhndFdo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNNQ1SfVKQU |
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| 8 | General / The Political Arena / Re: What the IRS shennanigans reveal... on: May 23rd, 2013, 3:30pm |
| Started by Devilsmacker | Post by buttwheat | |
Code:Would it really be so bad to have more choices and freedom? Yes, if we are talking about your frickin' freedoms of anarchical fantasia. i haven't followed this in last two days, but were not the IRS "offenders" isolated to a small branch in Ohio who over scrutinized even smaller Tea Party affiliates? And there was absolutely NO executive administration connection, just a couple IRS employees who misinterpreted policy. Karl Rove and the other major republican campaign machines were not touched. And right in time, In come the clowns, Mitch McConnell, and Lindsay Graham. And so we got Obama's extensive response on drones finally today. Weighing the options, the American lives that were saved far out number the few Americans tragically killed. He reminded us that we are still at war against an organization that killed some 2,000 civilians on our soil, and who still, if given the chance, would kill as many American civilians as possible. The president revealed the internal effect it had on him personally, saying "...for myself and others in my command the deaths [of the four Americans] will haunt us as long as we live". It was another incredible speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4SgBVk0q_Q |
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| 9 | General / The Political Arena / What the IRS shennanigans reveal... on: May 22nd, 2013, 12:31pm |
| Started by Devilsmacker | Post by Devilsmacker | |
| Republicans of course will milk this "scandal" for every penny its worth to damage the current administration. Obama probably has to accept the blame for some fairly disgraceful behavior at the hands of the U.S. Treasuries' enforcer agency. The question for the American public is...has the IRS been a legitimate source of enforcing the tax code, or is it a lackey tool for the administration in charge to smear oppositional individuals and groups? All this is not new. A public living in the moment, and ignorant of their history, will fail to remember how time and time again, the IRS has been used as a tool by past administrations to go after people who are not operating in the best interests of the administration in charge. In other words, the IRS has often found itself either to be a bounty hunter or a smear tool to the dictates of a President. Roosevelt sicked the IRS on opponents to the New Deal or political enemies in general, Nixon attacked political opponents with it, and even Kennedy found himself "influencing IRS policy with several private and public statements against conservative groups stinging over Nixon's failed 1960 Presidential bid. What the American public fails to understand, or simply is not capable of understanding, is that the idea that government officials are not susceptible to the whims of the executive branch is pure fantasy. The damage this causes is apparent: branches and cabinets and wings of government organizations operate not in the best interests of the American Public, but in the best interests of a political party. Take the Bureau of Labor. Statistics this group puts out are followed by virtually any American with a pulse on the economy. Those "statistics" are cited as verbatim fact as if they are an ironclad measure of the "true" state of the economy. And if you truly believe that, you are a moron. The BLS is as susceptible to partisan grandstanding and fudging of numbers as the IRS is or virtually any cabinet organization can be. The lesson to learn is that no government organization is probably ever truly non-partisan, and when government grows as large as it has, the consequences of power run amok are sure to follow. This is why every American should consider, very carefully, if all they give to their government in the form of trust, riches, and power is giving them an equal return. If the IRS's tactics are any measure, then the answer is clearly no. I wonder what this country would look like if we went back in time to a period when the government served a few basic functions and left the people to figure out the rest for themselves. Would it really be so bad to have more choices and freedom? |
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| 10 | General / The Sporting News / gonna be a nice crappity smacking playoff run on: May 20th, 2013, 3:21pm |
| Started by buttwheat | Post by buttwheat | |
| Detroit looks unstoppable. They hit a huge streak at the end of the season and it has continued into the playoffs. The killed Chicago last night in their own building to tie the series, and tonight there's a biiiiig crappity smacking game at The Joe for Mo. i predict they will go to the finals. | |
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