gherkin
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It's more than that, Barbarian. Did you watch the videos? My commentary was mostly my experience and an introduction to the idea, not the evidence for the idea itself. Yes, it is more or less boiled down to Descartes depending on how you look at it, but most people take Descartes meaning in a shallow way. Great truths like his can often be easily overlooked because they reflect shallow truths as well. The real question is: When you think, when your mind is active, what/who is it that is noticing that you are thinking? That is the real you. Your thoughts are no more you than your hand is. They are a part of your body. The only thing which is you is your observer, your consciousness. We can look into a mind all we want, and we can't find the consciousness, the "you-ness". We can dissect each thought, each idea, break down where it came from, and what electro-chemical processes made it - but we cannot find the observer of those thoughts. We cannot find the experiencer of those thoughts. It's also just like the question of heaven I asked my Grandma when I was young. I asked her if she could be happy in heaven knowing that as an Atheist I would be in hell. She said of course, for in heaven every tear is wiped away. So the being that ends up in heaven is most definitely not the thinking being that we see on earth. When the body fades away, the observer themselves goes to heaven, not the thinker. The soul is the observer, not the part of you that thinks, but the part of you who sees the thinking happen. Your ego wants you to identify yourself with your thought, or even your body. But this is not who you are. The only part of you which is you is the observer. I think therefore I is. He is not affirming that he exists, and if he was, just thinking wouldn't be good enough evidence for that, as computers think. He is affirming that his I-ness exists. His observer exists. He is saying he has a soul, because he can "see" himself think. Descartes didn't push this any further, because of the threat of the Catholic church. Instead he decided to leave matters of the mind and soul to the church and matters of the external world he tackled.
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