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Reply #1 - May 10th, 2012, 7:28am
 
Cant blame the working class in Greece, but F*** their politicians that were in charge the last 2 decades and F*** the European Union ! Anyway, the Dutch have elections in september, my vote will go ( and many many with me) to the party that will cut off the strings with the EU. One European Union is impossible . > 3000 years of history and culture differences. One can't compare the US ( exsists only appr. 300 years ) to Europe ( because that is what politcians have in mind), no way we will ever be United, only trade agreements ( and in fact thats all that matters) are possible ( European Economic Community ) So all politicians that want to make people believe a united Europe is in their own interest , are full of it. I wish the working people in Greece lots of luck, but if things really go wrong there ( and it probably will ) we will have a civil war on our hands.....and having Neo-Nazi's in their parlement after latest elections doesn't help either....smart voting Greeks...... Sad
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Reply #2 - May 10th, 2012, 10:05am
 
The avarice and greed of political / economic has led us here.
The die is cast, the fall has begun. But no one is safe. The time will going to put everything in place.
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Reply #3 - May 10th, 2012, 10:47am
 
Quote from razorclaw on May 9th, 2012, 4:54pm:

 
not now, after USA elections sell off
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Reply #4 - May 10th, 2012, 11:11am
 
USA plays with advantage because it prints its currency all he wants, and the world accepts it, unbelievable but true! (for now).
 
When the Chinese stop buying, nobody will buy ruins  anywhere.
 
Countries should be able to produce its currency without interest, instead of borrowing from central banks so that they create money from nothing and lend it, charging a high interest in this, unbelievable!
 
I also want to do this!!
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Reply #5 - May 10th, 2012, 11:26am
 
after the fall of usa-euro new world order will go fo the global currency. Will see if ther''conspiracy'' theory will be true
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Reply #6 - May 10th, 2012, 7:09pm
 
I wish I could figure out what you were saying GK.  Who is the "new world order?"  What is the "global currency?"  Whose "conspiracy" will be true or false?
 
All I know for sure is that Greece's election (and to a lesser extent) France's move left is killing my investment portfolio.
 
Why ISN'T this the fault of the Greeks wanting to screw the world for all it's done to support their overly generous social support system?
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Reply #7 - May 11th, 2012, 3:21am
 
By the way i lost many many money from greek stocks. The crisis is the biggest from 1930.
So like Blasdelezo said USA has a big problem too with the dept if china stop to buy it. It is silly to say that Greece has the problem in europe when its dept is 2% of the whole. Ireland, Portugal,Italy ,Spain etc follow. In similar circumstances in the 20th century  war begun, i dont know if we are already in a financial war or could happen real war in one or two years.
 
So one question is : Who will fall first USA or Euro ?
 
 
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Reply #8 - May 11th, 2012, 9:27am
 
Nobody is going to fall gkaros.  The beauty of history is we can learn from our mistakes.  America could have fell into depression in 08, but bailed out Detroit among other things which saved us.  China will not stop buying because that will halt their economy.  They need to keep moving and they realize if America or Europe fall into economic meltdown mode, they soon will too.  Global economy.
 
As for this neo-nazi in Greece, startling comparisons to Hitler.  Don't see the Greeks letting that happen though.
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Reply #9 - May 11th, 2012, 10:42am
 
Many people have talked about China as a great power,.... the truth is that China has major structural problems. Need a sustained double-digit growth just to survive, even untenable in the short term. It is a time bomb.
 
USA (or anyone) can not regain what he had, it is impossible, circumstances changed and they will no longer be as before. His future is down.
 
Even Germany, has major problems of unemployment, disguised subsidies. At the time that other countries stop importing German products (due to inability to pay), the German economy will also fall.
 
Everything could be fix with common sense and intelligence, but it will not, unfortunately.
 
Why?  
 
For the few who have the political and economic power are so stupid that they prefer to sink it all before losing power.  
 
And the rest who support this scum, they will not realize what the truth of this.  
 
So we end up paying all with more misery and poverty for a long period of years.
 
 
 
And nobody doubts that if they consider necessary to create a third Pearl Harbor, will also be created.
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Reply #10 - May 12th, 2012, 3:15am
 
Unfortunatly yes Flyers....8% of the votes went to extreme right wing, neo-nazi's, and those idiots dont realize they better get all noses pointing the same way otherwise Greece will fall for sure. If they dont live up to the demands ( no other choice for the Greeks, but their pride stands in their way ) of the EU & IMF they will fall.
 
Regarding the riddles Blazo writes about the US....yes the US was on the edge as well ( indeed printing money ,etc) but they are saved by the bell. They started to use horizontal drilling technics (oil),which we used here for the last 10 years already, and they discovered recently that the US has oil reserves that are twice as big as the reserves in the middle east...and as we all know, oil rules the world, so the US will be back on its feet soon, and oil prices will start to drop next couple of years, this will change everything ( again ).
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Reply #11 - May 12th, 2012, 5:37am
 
And, stray, let's not forget the principle of "American Exceptionalism."
 
Americans believe that we are favored by God and have been given personal and societal traits, as well as natural resources, that ensure our success for all time.
 
As ridiculous as that sounds, at times it appears to be true.  In the end, worldwide investment is just a competition among countries to provide the best environment for return.  No matter how deeply troubled the US is, we continue to be the MOST logical place on the planet to invest money because of our respect for business, meritocracy, and lack of corruption.  Investment money has to go somewhere, and usually that is the US.  When times get tough, though, EVERYONE sends their money here.  And, that buoys us through hard times.
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Reply #12 - May 12th, 2012, 6:30am
 
"respect" for business and "lack" of corruption ????? On which planet do you live Razor ?   Grin You are kiddin' right ?? Like i said, US is saved by the bell. Yes you were in big trouble ( tough times, as you put it) , so anyone with more then 1 braincell would probably NOT invest , and there was no chute untill this surprise came along. So the bellsafe was not because of investments as you put it, but by having unexpected oil resorces.......one would almost start to "believe" the US is favoured... Wink
 
PS;  "succes for all time".....also funny Razor  Roll Eyes
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Reply #13 - May 12th, 2012, 6:15pm
 
unless you are Warren Buffett, 3rd richest man in America. He has bought 5% of TESCO, a British supermarket chain.
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Reply #14 - May 12th, 2012, 8:10pm
 
I don't think everyone is brainwashed with "American Exceptionalism," stray.  In fact, I hope I see some in my lifetime.  When I read "of our respect for business, meritocracy, and lack of corruption," I think I had the same reaction as you, stray.  Be lucky you weren't drinking a Pepsi as you read it, as mine almost came out my nose!      
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Reply #15 - May 12th, 2012, 8:31pm
 
It's all relative.
 
USA one of the least corrupt governments in G8.
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Reply #16 - May 13th, 2012, 12:00am
 
Razor .....stop saying that....LMAO !!!
I dont know how old you are and what you've experienced so far, but believe me the US is just as corrupt as the  
African , Central Asian, Soviet and European countries. The only thing is that in so called "developed, or educated" countries the corruption is covered and hidden. In other countries its more obvious and those governments simply dont care about (international) public and political opinion. Trust me , politics are dirty and corrupt, we all know that. And sorry to say, especially the US with their never ending hunger of being the so called "world leader" is corrupt to the bone. This will become a never ending thread, and in fact we are getting of track since the topic was about the crisis in Greece/EU, but just some examples of (political) corruption"Irak" ( no weapons of mass destruction  )....or lets say  "Iran" , (illegal weapon deals) , enrichment of politicians and top managers covering each others back getting loaded by deceiving everything and everyone ( see one of the previous threads: medicin, same brand, same amount costs in Mexico  $ 0,75, in the US $ 200,- and this is a proven fact ) Some call it "business" i call it corruption. Its simple Razor, if money is involved and people have a change to make money, there is corruption. And if there is no corruption (yet) it will be created just to get whatever the goal is.
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Reply #17 - May 13th, 2012, 11:10am
 
It's an interesting opinion, stray.  But, it's not supported by the scholarly research into such matters.
 
Don't let that inform your opinion, though....
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Reply #18 - May 14th, 2012, 12:42am
 
thats right Razor, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion... Smiley
maybe "scholarly research" says otherwise, my opinion is based on personal experience and undeniable facts as mentioned in my previous mail.  I guess you must agree that these "facts" are indeed undeniable.....or not ?  Smiley
Anyway, enough said about it Razor.... Smiley
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Reply #19 - May 14th, 2012, 8:24am
 
Quote from razorclaw on May 12th, 2012, 8:31pm:
It's all relative.

USA one of the least corrupt governments in G8.

 
 Grin Grin  Grin
 
Just an examble : Dick Cheney and Halliburton company. Guys that can do wars to sell their products and do business, there are many . USA is the most corrupted country, just open your eyes.
 
And this is for new world order, your ex president, admire him  
 
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