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TNRockyraccoon

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Good old fashioned I hate this player because post
Jun 27^th, 2012, 10:46am

Today I was playing a game with Ingalls. He joined my game and I gladly played him.

The game was only a few minutes in when my computer started to crash. I knew it was happening and told him. Unfortunately I couldn't get Meta logged on quick enough to resume our game.

I asked him if he'd take a draw since our game was early and mostly even. He refused.

No class at all.

I would understand if the game was near the end or if he had a piece advantage. But this was clearly not the case.

Those that know me.....know I can win and lose with class, and that I'm fair about things. Now I know what kind of player Ingalls is and he is no longer welcome to join my games.

Let's go fishing!

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Re: Good old fashioned I hate this player because
Reply #1 - Jun 28^th, 2012, 6:49am

Is it a joke man??????????????????????
i said u ok, do as u want.
i just asked u to do nothing because our last game, it is me who had a probleme ans i didn't ask to do something.
u answered me something, then i said u i had no probleme with rank because i doàn'"t care, and i have always said i agreed to cancel the game!!!

i wish u will explain me that ecause i am fair here!!!!!!!

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Street_Sweeper Metaforge Administrator Moderators Posts: 1680 Gender:	Re: Good old fashioned I hate this player because Reply #2 - Jun 28^th, 2012, 7:06pm Thank you, Ingalls, for your good sportsmanship. I removed the game per your response above. Street
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Sohal Moderators I Love Metaforge! Posts: 828 Gender:	Re: Good old fashioned I hate this player because Reply #3 - Jun 29^th, 2012, 12:53am well, Ingalls, i asked you if you agreed to remove that game when you were online just after your game with TNR. You couldn't said "yes" or "no", and were complaining about that 3 years old game. Finally you left whithout an answer.
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Re: Good old fashioned I hate this player because
Reply #4 - Jun 29^th, 2012, 6:16am

SOrry Sohal u r falsh, u asked me and i didn't say yes or no and i explained you that i was speaking with TNR.
and just before quit meta, i sent u a message said"c bon" meaning in french that it is ok, u can do it! if admin don"'t trust me, u can see the message i sent to sohal two days ago, i know admins can see message sent by personal message.
So Sohal, u forget a little fast message i do it, then before speaking i am a lier, please, remember!!!

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Sohal Moderators I Love Metaforge! Posts: 828 Gender:	Re: Good old fashioned I hate this player because Reply #5 - Jun 29^th, 2012, 9:24am ok, can an admin review that chat please
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Street_Sweeper Metaforge Administrator Moderators Posts: 1680 Gender:	Re: Good old fashioned I hate this player because Reply #6 - Jun 30^th, 2012, 2:33am It's in French. I unfortunately only speak English, and through a translator, it was hard to determine who said what. I removed the game based on Ingalls post above.
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Street_Sweeper Metaforge Administrator Moderators Posts: 1680 Gender:	Re: Good old fashioned I hate this player because Reply #7 - Jun 30^th, 2012, 2:36am I removed the June 11, 2012 game when Ingalls had the same problem, as Rocky said it was fine to do, so both of your games when each lost to an early disconnect have been removed.
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TNRockyraccoon

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Re: Good old fashioned I hate this player because
Reply #8 - Jul 1^st, 2012, 8:40am

Perhaps there were some things lost in translation.

I tried to talk with Ingalls as did Sohal, and maybe neither of us understood him.

I think the problem lies with the way games have to be removed in the event of an unintentional problem.

Getting in touch with an opponent and trying to get them in touch with a mod to remove a game can be difficult.

I think if games are reviewable, any game in question could be decided without consent by Admins under a few criteria.

1. No apparent piece advantage to winning player. (obviously, if the non disconnecting player has a power position in the game, they should probably be awarded the game).

2. Low moves. If the game is new and under 150 moves or less than 10 minutes.

3. No evidence of intentional disconnect or past record of leaving games hastily.

4. IF TNROCKYRACCOON ok's it. Wink

Anyway, thanks for your reply Ingalls, and thanks for working on this mods.

Let's go fishing!

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Re: Good old fashioned I hate this player because
Reply #9 - Jul 1^st, 2012, 2:07pm

Hi Rocky. I cancelled the game on the 27th per Ingalls' post above. He made reference to checking what was said to Sohal, as he was claiming he did say it was ok. I just re-read chat again. I did not see the "c' bon" Ingalls referenced, and could not understand the French dialogue. You and Ingalls spoke and he mentioned a game you two had where he disconnected, and said this one and that one could be a draw, so he was agreeing. You said fine, tell Sohal to void. I just voided both (versus draw). A draw has a negative effect on krach (not as bad as a loss) and a void makes the game non-existent.

So, Ingalls did agree that day, to make a draw on both games where each of you took a loss, to make it even (and you were fine with it too). Maybe it all happened so fast that something did in fact get lost in translation.

I dunno, this thread may end up being "Good old fashioned I love this player because post....." Grin

Thanks for the happy ending, guys. Wink

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